What is the correct play here? Should I just jam the flop? Should I check-raise the flop? Would love to hear your thoughts. Thank you. You opened from EP so that has to affect villain's 3 bet range. Before you 4 bet you have to know the following: 1 How wide is his 3 bet? I can tell you right off that based on your post if you put him only calling KK - JJ after your 4bet and he would shove his AA, you cannot 4bet AK for value.
And in that case, I think you are much better off calling with AK rather than turning into a 4bet bluff. Against a balanced player this is what I expect his 3 bet range to possibly look like: Against something like this, AK is better as a call. You have to consider that you raised in EP and most players will respect that you should have a tight range from EP and will not 3 bet wide against an EP range. After you 4 bet on this board this is what your 4 bet range should possibly look like.
Comment Post Cancel. One of the reasons I 4-bet here was because I was out of position and if I missed the flop I didn't want him to c-bet and take it down with a weaker Ace. That's why I was hoping to take it down pre-flop and get him to fold his middle pairs.
But you have a point that his 3-betting range would be very tight. It was the min raise that made it very suspicious for me. Thanks for the feedback! RealJPB commented. But preflop, this is how my range is probably going to look after his 3 bet:. You start off saying you have an aggressive playing style. You made assumptions of what the player on button might consider folding to your 4bet such as middle pairs..
The best 4-bet bluffing hands are suited Ax and Kx hands that can not profitably call the 3-bet. Our 4-bet size should put the 3-bettor in a marginal spot with most of his hands, forcing him to call with a decent portion of his 3-betting range. If we use too large or too small of a size, our opponent will have an easy decision with most of his hands. Position matters because it impacts how our opponents will realize their equity. They will realize equity well when playing in position and poorly when playing out of position.
We will want to use bigger sizes when 4-betting out of position in order to mitigate some of their positional advantages. For this example, we will use a small blind 3-betting range against a button raise since this is the most frequent spot. The ranges will be based on a 2. The small numbers represent how much equity each hand has against the opposing range.
We will again use the most common spot for our example, which is when the cutoff raises to 2. Since the preflop 3-betting range is tighter, compared to the in position example, the open-raiser can not 4-bet as many hands for value. As a result, the 4-bet bluffing range should also be narrower. The bet size that hammers his range most is somewhere around 2. If you want to see the math behind this size, click below.
Full disclosure: I never play tournaments. But you know who does? The 4-bet size he recommends is circled at the bottom: 2. Note that the Mastersheet sizes and ranges assume there are antes. Once your stack approaches 50BB, his preferred 4-bet size is all-in in most spots.
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Both hands play the same postflop, for the most part, at least. Let us have a look at how AK does against other hands. AK generally plays fine postflop. On the boards where we miss, we can apply pressure on dry flops like Q82 rainbow, as we have two overcards to hit on turn and river. So this is a good spot to bluff. The times when we hit top pair on the flop, we can usually go for 2, sometimes even 3 streets of value.
When we have AKs, we have a few more options. On many flops, we have at least a backdoor flush draw as extra outs , which adds us a few percent of equity. At times we even flop a nut flush draw, and that is another scenario to be aggressive. All the lower flush draws will be prepared to pay off our semi-bluff bets. In the table above, you can see how much better KK is than AK against other hands.
But is it that much better also postflop? Yes, but it depends on the flop. Naturally, if A hits, that is an action killer for our kings. We need to play it very carefully from then on. But when there is no A present, then we can go for multiple streets of value. On dry boards, it is very common to go for all 3 streets of value. If we are in a 3bet pot, we most often stack off.
On very wet boards, full of draws like with 2 spades, it makes sense to pot control and not be too thrilled about cbetting. It would be a disaster to bet and get raises by some draw, against which we are still the favorite on the flop. But generally, the majority of flops will be good for our KK.
Pocket Kings is a better hand to have multiway. On some flops, we can value bet , but on some flops, we need to be careful about getting raised. But at times, it makes sense to pot control to get to showdown without building the pot. Check and hope for a free card , otherwise, give up.
There is one exception to this. It might be good to build the pot when you have a nut flush draw. Then bet as a semi-bluff, if everyone folds, great. You just picked up a nice small pot. If not, then we have good odds of hitting the nuts, and if someone else has a lower flush draw, it will cost them significantly. When you hit the top pair , you need to be careful , just like with KK. Someone raising your bet means you are beaten. So it often makes sense to pot control and to get our hand to showdown.
In later stages of the tournament, when you often have less than 40bb, it is fine to stack off with either AK or KK preflop. In the early stages, though stacking off with AK can be a disaster. Especially if you have a big skill advantage over others. It would be terrible to get it in preflop for big blinds and be worse than flipping against pocket jacks.
Even pocket deuces are a small favorite against AK preflop. With KK , on the other hand, you will again be fine stacking off at a bigger stack size , but be cautious. If the player is very tight, then you might be making a mistake by getting it in preflop. But AK still does well against many other hands; it is a good hand that will make you consistent profits.
It just comes short when up against KK. I have played poker professionally for more than 10 years. Now my biggest satisfaction is to provide enthusiastic but new poker players with answers to all of their questions. All of those pairs are going to be top pair top kicker, which means a couple things. Single pairs with AK are inherently very strong 2. These points may seem basic, but they are often times overlooked. This is very standard for hands with unpaired broadway cards, so knowing how to play when the hand misses the flop is crucial.
But even when AK misses the flop it still usually has some equity. If AK has 6 outs and expects to see both the turn AND river, it will improve to top pair almost a quarter of the time. These are important considerations to keep in mind! Going back to preflop though, AK is a hand I suggest playing aggressively far more often than you play it passively.
I enter pots with raises when holding AK, 3bet it as a default, and look for spots to 4bet and 5bet with it. But why?
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